IntelleXual Podcast with Lindsay Katt

Musician and filmmaker Lindsay Katt sits down with Whitney and David at the Jerome Indie Film & Music Festival in Jerome, AZ to talk music, film, art and more!

Update and clarification from Lindsay Katt:

I do want to make a few context clarifying statements about a few portions of this podcast.

The first thing I want to clarify is my commentary about shaming.

I used “fat shaming” as an example, as part of our discussion about shame.

But never really followed up on my thoughts about it in the interview.

I don’t feel like I clearly articulated my view fully in concluding that thread, and wanted to add a few points.

I wanted to articulate that it is a person’s belief that the shame being used against them is valid, and that it applies to them, that seems to create the most damage in people.

So if a fat person, is shamed for being fat, it’s the belief in the story around that shame that allows it to do the most damage. (I know a lot of happy people, who love the bodies they have without shame, regardless of size)

I believe that the fat on our bodies (regardless of mass ) just like our skin, bones, and hair…in no way contributes to a persons value/lack of value…and that it is just a part of our own unique bodies.

That it is the story we tell as a society, and to each other, along with our belief in that story as “the truth” that makes it an effective weapon to shame people with.

I was pointing out that when someone try’s to use “evidence” to try and prove that story…it can be even more damaging to the person being shamed. Because they might be more likely to believe the narrative around it.

What I didn’t address was the consequences that people face, both when this shaming is happening, and is ignored, or we passively support it by validating it’s credibility as a premise.

I do not think Fat or Body Shaming is a credible premise.
And I feel a responsibility to stop participating in a story that I don’t believe is real.

I find it useful, when I recognize that shame in myself …because it can help me address and dismantle that false story, and hold the shame accountable as shame….instead of truth.

I also wanted to point out that when I said that for a period of Patti Smith’s Life “no one have a shit about her” I was referring to the fact that there was a point in her career where her work wasn’t being recognized yet as being brilliant. (Not that literally no one cared about her, I am sure many people cared about her.)

Just wanted to plant that food for thought!

I love you!

Take Care of each other out there!


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Hi. I’m David, your host at The Intellexual Network. I’ve been a fan of podcasting for years – having first been exposed to podcasting as a Radio & Television Communications student in the early 2000s. I started my first podcast in 2005 as a part of the marketing blitz for a feature film I produced here in San Diego called “What’s The Vig?” I’ve tried more personal shows off and on over the years, but in 2013 I found my voice with the “Voices of ’93 Podcast” which I hosted and produced for my high school class as a celebration of our 20 year reunion. The success of this show, and the overwhelming response of my classmates to continue it past the reunion, has inspired me to round up my extremely talented family and friends and launch The Intellexual Network. A place where we can produce the types of shows that we would listen to, and we think you’ll enjoy.


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